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December 24th, 2010 (512 Days Ago)

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Why are you asking? Just google it.
Why are you asking? Just google it.
512 days ago 12 comments Categories: Rants Tags: google, question, ask

You remember the last time you were just getting into something, you asked someone a question and were told that you were dumb, an idiot, retarded, or similar, for asking, and not googling, or researching it yourself?

 

Being an admin, I have to keep my personal bias out of my judgement on this site, and one thing I've worked hard on is keeping this bias aside.  But in order to vent, I figured I'd blog about this.  No this isn't happening on our site...much.  Thankfully!  But I do see it a lot on the net.

 

When people are new, they ask a lot of questions, why?  because they want to learn.  This should be encouraged shouldn't it?  Especially if it's something YOU happen to know a lot about, you should be flattered, they not only think the thing you worked hard to learn is interesting, but they recognise you are an expert.  Wonderful.  So what's the problem?  I don't see one.

 

Yet when asked, many people snipe back with "Stop asking me!  You should be researching this yourself".  Now honestly that in and of itself is not a terrible answer.  It's understandable that the more you know on a subject, the more people bug you for information.  I work in IT myself, and I get asked simple questions all the time.  It can be taxing.  Well, ok, fine, so you don't have the time and energy to teach the world how it works, when you had to gruel through blood, sweat, and tears, reading old books that were nearly falling apart, walking up-hill both ways, to get to find out what they want spoon-fed to them in an answer.  BULL!  Get off your high horse and understand, that if people need to research or learn things for themselves, then they need to learn this, POLITELY!  This means that instead of beating them down, give them an answer that doesn't just solve it for them, but tells them what they need to do.  For example:

 

Q: "I want to configure a Memcached server to interact with PHP, caching MySQL queries".

A: "If you go to website x, it can tell you all about it."

 

Providing a website, or mentioning a book isn't giving them an answer directly, but it's MUCH better then giving them a book long lecture about how they shouldn't ever speak to another human being about a topic until they have several pHDs in the subject.  And if they press on "but you know about this right?  Can't you just tell me?", I usually offer back "Well it's not a simple answer, and I apologize, but I don't have the time or energy right now to write you a manual on how to do this.  You should find all you need on the website".  That's as mean as I get on that matter, and There are probably even better ways to handle it.

 

This is just something that really pisses me off.  Learning should be encouraged, not beaten out of people with a lead pipe filled with acid.

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  •  Kuroloki wrote 503 Days Ago (positive) 
     
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    AMEN TO THAT. This should be posted on the front page of the internetz.
     
       
     
     
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  •  Vigdisdotter wrote 511 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I've seen both sides this issue. And what I've found is that in both cases, it's extremism that annoys more. someone reacting with "STFU and just google it" is extreme and usually unnecessary (I say usually because there's always exceptions in life). But on the other side of the coin you have people with entitlement issue that want to be spoon fed. And that is just as annoying. I'm happy to recommend a book and utterly delighted if someone comes back and discusses what they found in and/or thought of said book. I'm a grumpy panda if the person refuses to read the book and demands I "just tell them." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now of course there is question of being reasonable. Not everyone has money to get a book, not all libraries carry a given book and so on and nothing says they know someone that owns the book and will let them barrow it. Ultimately for me, how I respond to questions is very much related to what kind of attitude the person is giving. An honest seeker is a very good thing. A gape mouthed hatchling that sits in the nest demanding to be fed, not so much. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Finally there is the lovely fact that the internet is text based media and there is no tone of voice, no body language. So it's very possible (if not probable -_-) for assumptions to be made and for misunderstandings to happen. So I leave the STFU crowd to their games and just ask/answer questions as befits my fancy,
     
       
     
     
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  •  aubergine wrote 511 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I definitely agree that it's much better to give an answer that will help someone, instead of giving an answer that will hurt them. I see it all too much in fandom and in other Pagan-related communities. (I also see it where I work, but that's a story for my work blog...)
     
       
     
     
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  •  Hedgewitch wrote 511 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I agree people do not need to be pounded into the ground. I always take time for new people but I do so in mail when I can take time to do so at my leisure rather than in a room where I have to give instant answers. In this way, they get a more thought out answer and more directions to go to for further education.
     
       
     
     
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  •  Dancing_Happens wrote 511 Days Ago (positive) 
     
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    This actually happened to me on Covenspace! I was in the chat room, everyone was talking about a certain person apparently WELL KNOWN in the pagan community. When I asked who this person was, I was told to "Google it" I almost left site because I had been embarrassed in front of everyone in chat. I think if people ask you a question, the polite thing to do is give them an answer (brief, yes, but you don't treat people like a fool"). At the time I was WAY new to the internet in general, and didn't know WHAT THE HELL Google was! Thanks for posting this, DM! We need to be polite to people, and at least point them in the right direction, not snipe at them for not knowing. Good post! Thank you!!!
     
       
     
     
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